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		<title>By: SZ</title>
		<link>http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/to-christmas-or-not-to-christmas-holiday-dilemmas/#comment-10699</link>
		<dc:creator>SZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  Just as we DON&#039;T do Halloween but instead of staying in we do take the opportunity to go and pass out tracts that night... We DON&#039;T celebrate Christmas but will take the opportunity to share and celebrate what God has done and to focus on helping others (Volunteer at a soup kitchen, etc.)!  I guess our way to deal with these non-God ordained &quot;holy-days&quot; is to light a candle rather than curse the darkness!!  I think this approach is edifying for our family and others because we don&#039;t sit around grumbling &amp; complaining (nooooo!) but instead attempt to be proactive and honor God by showing a better way.  It&#039;s can&#039;t just be about us continuing the traditions we&#039;ve learned.  That our are families have always done things a certain way and now it&#039;s comfortable for us is not good enough.  Our practices flow out to the world and in some ways inform how others think and feel about the true and living God!  Realizing this gives me pause and causes me to want to stick even closer to God&#039;s word and His ways.  I think about the need to be very careful about what practices we teach our children to love, adore and hold dear since they will probably teach them to our grandchildren and it continues from there (until He comes!).  We are teaching our children to be disciples of Messiah, not of this world!  Our children don&#039;t miss anything of real and lasting value by not celebrating secular &quot;holy-days&quot; like Halloween or Christmas.  Ironically, our older daughter has expressed feeling kinda badly that a lot of children are missing out on the fun and Godly excitement of Purim and the wonder and joy of Passover and Chanukah!  ;)  God bless &amp; love to you all as we grow up together in Him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Just as we DON&#8217;T do Halloween but instead of staying in we do take the opportunity to go and pass out tracts that night&#8230; We DON&#8217;T celebrate Christmas but will take the opportunity to share and celebrate what God has done and to focus on helping others (Volunteer at a soup kitchen, etc.)!  I guess our way to deal with these non-God ordained &#8220;holy-days&#8221; is to light a candle rather than curse the darkness!!  I think this approach is edifying for our family and others because we don&#8217;t sit around grumbling &amp; complaining (nooooo!) but instead attempt to be proactive and honor God by showing a better way.  It&#8217;s can&#8217;t just be about us continuing the traditions we&#8217;ve learned.  That our are families have always done things a certain way and now it&#8217;s comfortable for us is not good enough.  Our practices flow out to the world and in some ways inform how others think and feel about the true and living God!  Realizing this gives me pause and causes me to want to stick even closer to God&#8217;s word and His ways.  I think about the need to be very careful about what practices we teach our children to love, adore and hold dear since they will probably teach them to our grandchildren and it continues from there (until He comes!).  We are teaching our children to be disciples of Messiah, not of this world!  Our children don&#8217;t miss anything of real and lasting value by not celebrating secular &#8220;holy-days&#8221; like Halloween or Christmas.  Ironically, our older daughter has expressed feeling kinda badly that a lot of children are missing out on the fun and Godly excitement of Purim and the wonder and joy of Passover and Chanukah!  <img src='http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   God bless &amp; love to you all as we grow up together in Him!</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Waldrop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Waldrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this was refreshing! Thanks for sharing! Since we&#039;ve been married, my husband (and now our 4 children) and I have not celebrated Christmas. In the beginning is was very hard and we received a lot of trouble about it. These past few years our family has begun to accept that we don&#039;t do Christmas, and still love us anyway! ;) On my side of the family though it has caused quite the earthquake. :( I hate that this is something for us to have lost fellowship over, but I know our Father will work it out for good according to his purposes. And on a funny note, when my youngest sees a Santa picture he calls him &quot;glasses&quot;, since the first picture he saw the Santa was wearing glasses! Trying to figure out a polite response for my children to give when asked by someone if Santa&#039;s gonna visit them this year- blank stare has tended to seem a little rude, but they really have no idea what they are talking about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this was refreshing! Thanks for sharing! Since we&#8217;ve been married, my husband (and now our 4 children) and I have not celebrated Christmas. In the beginning is was very hard and we received a lot of trouble about it. These past few years our family has begun to accept that we don&#8217;t do Christmas, and still love us anyway! <img src='http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  On my side of the family though it has caused quite the earthquake. <img src='http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I hate that this is something for us to have lost fellowship over, but I know our Father will work it out for good according to his purposes. And on a funny note, when my youngest sees a Santa picture he calls him &#8220;glasses&#8221;, since the first picture he saw the Santa was wearing glasses! Trying to figure out a polite response for my children to give when asked by someone if Santa&#8217;s gonna visit them this year- blank stare has tended to seem a little rude, but they really have no idea what they are talking about!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 03:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, I am so glad you shared the steps G-d took you through. So often we think we can motivate and teach others and that is all it takes. But the truth is G-d deals with each of us individually at the place He has us. I love how your journey has evolved. Thank you for sharing it. I also thank you for sharing your obedience to your husband as that plays a huge part in how this time line works. 
Bobbie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, I am so glad you shared the steps G-d took you through. So often we think we can motivate and teach others and that is all it takes. But the truth is G-d deals with each of us individually at the place He has us. I love how your journey has evolved. Thank you for sharing it. I also thank you for sharing your obedience to your husband as that plays a huge part in how this time line works.<br />
Bobbie</p>
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		<title>By: Taunya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taunya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a graceful post!  I spent my entire childhood not celebrating Christmas in any shape or form.

When my children were born, we decided to celebrate the holiday, as my husband did celebrate Christmas growing up.

We have a tree. Not because it&#039;s an idol, or we symbolize it.  Simply because it&#039;s pretty and I like the smell.  

We do not pretend Santa is real.  We watch The Polar Express, Rudolph the Rednose Reindeer and other Christmasy shows.

We give each other gifts, spend the days with our families and send cards.

It doesn&#039;t harm us. We are not replacing it as an idol. To me, when I take Christmas (a secular event) and try to make it about Christ, I am twisting Christ into something he is not.

When I take Santa and make him into a real person, I am twisting who God is.

Everything about our culture is pagan, we are Gentiles. When I realized this, it freed me from the angst of what to do.  I am in this world, but not of it.  It&#039;s not about what I do on a given day.  It&#039;s what is in my heart.  

Am I being true to who I am, and who God is?  Am I observing every day the commandments given by Jesus, &quot;Love the Lord thy God&quot; and &quot;Love thy Neighbor as thyself&quot;?  Am I spending time on my relationship with him or am I spending time on my brother&#039;s relationship with him?

For me, celebrating Christmas as Americans do today, does not make me pagan, anymore than celebrating the 4th of July makes me American.  

That being said, Robin, this blog is the most balanced and graceful post about Christmas I have read. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a graceful post!  I spent my entire childhood not celebrating Christmas in any shape or form.</p>
<p>When my children were born, we decided to celebrate the holiday, as my husband did celebrate Christmas growing up.</p>
<p>We have a tree. Not because it&#8217;s an idol, or we symbolize it.  Simply because it&#8217;s pretty and I like the smell.  </p>
<p>We do not pretend Santa is real.  We watch The Polar Express, Rudolph the Rednose Reindeer and other Christmasy shows.</p>
<p>We give each other gifts, spend the days with our families and send cards.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t harm us. We are not replacing it as an idol. To me, when I take Christmas (a secular event) and try to make it about Christ, I am twisting Christ into something he is not.</p>
<p>When I take Santa and make him into a real person, I am twisting who God is.</p>
<p>Everything about our culture is pagan, we are Gentiles. When I realized this, it freed me from the angst of what to do.  I am in this world, but not of it.  It&#8217;s not about what I do on a given day.  It&#8217;s what is in my heart.  </p>
<p>Am I being true to who I am, and who God is?  Am I observing every day the commandments given by Jesus, &#8220;Love the Lord thy God&#8221; and &#8220;Love thy Neighbor as thyself&#8221;?  Am I spending time on my relationship with him or am I spending time on my brother&#8217;s relationship with him?</p>
<p>For me, celebrating Christmas as Americans do today, does not make me pagan, anymore than celebrating the 4th of July makes me American.  </p>
<p>That being said, Robin, this blog is the most balanced and graceful post about Christmas I have read. Thank you!<br />
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		<title>By: missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, you did a great job with this post. You have given a lot of Christians food for thought. It is time that we heed the voice of the Holy Spirit, as in Revelations 18 and come out of her so that we do not partake in receiving her plagues (spelled out in Revelations which leads me to believe that God will not Matt 24:39 take up a bride that still partakes of the harlot on seven hills. He will take up the bride that is free from the harlot (sold out for Him)). So, I see God moving with his Holy Spirit over the land to call his bride to be ready. Those who have studied a Jewish engagement and wedding know that there are friends that go ahead of the bridegroom to holler out that he is coming (I believe the Holy Spirit is doing that-hollering out for his spotless bride, those who has set apart from the harlot, to be ready, he is indeed coming). I hope all who read this remember the parable you mentioned. But, there is one other story I would like to include, and that is the story of Saul. Do you remember why Saul&#039;s kingdom was taken from him, and his lineage destroyed? Saul offered disobedience to God on the alter (but I am doing this for you, God). God rejected it. God also rejected Cain&#039;s offering because it was an offering of disobedience. Who are we to tell God how he is to be worshiped? Let us learn from these examples and remember what God says about Revelations, come out of her. It is time. The Bridegroom is coming! Get ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, you did a great job with this post. You have given a lot of Christians food for thought. It is time that we heed the voice of the Holy Spirit, as in Revelations 18 and come out of her so that we do not partake in receiving her plagues (spelled out in Revelations which leads me to believe that God will not Matt 24:39 take up a bride that still partakes of the harlot on seven hills. He will take up the bride that is free from the harlot (sold out for Him)). So, I see God moving with his Holy Spirit over the land to call his bride to be ready. Those who have studied a Jewish engagement and wedding know that there are friends that go ahead of the bridegroom to holler out that he is coming (I believe the Holy Spirit is doing that-hollering out for his spotless bride, those who has set apart from the harlot, to be ready, he is indeed coming). I hope all who read this remember the parable you mentioned. But, there is one other story I would like to include, and that is the story of Saul. Do you remember why Saul&#8217;s kingdom was taken from him, and his lineage destroyed? Saul offered disobedience to God on the alter (but I am doing this for you, God). God rejected it. God also rejected Cain&#8217;s offering because it was an offering of disobedience. Who are we to tell God how he is to be worshiped? Let us learn from these examples and remember what God says about Revelations, come out of her. It is time. The Bridegroom is coming! Get ready.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Geary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Geary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and we must realize that until about 150 yrs ago, Christmas was most certainly NOT celebrated like it is now. It did not become commercialized at all till near the beginning of the Twentieth Century and has gotten progressively worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and we must realize that until about 150 yrs ago, Christmas was most certainly NOT celebrated like it is now. It did not become commercialized at all till near the beginning of the Twentieth Century and has gotten progressively worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Geary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Geary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your approach. I have wrestled with different aspects of this over the years. Like you, I never told my children there was a Santa or even referred to him as real.  At some point I think all of them asked me, point blank, and when I told them that &quot;Santa&quot; was fashioned after a man who really did live a long time ago, told them the story, they often did not want to believe me. One daughter said, &quot;Oh, not real, huh, Explain the flying reindeer!  LOL

I avoided having Santa decorations or Santa cards, always tried to focus on the gospel message.  We have had a tree most years.  

I love the &quot;magic&quot; atmosphere of Christmas and the music and the cheerfulness.  It became different when we underwent several financial crisis, almost back to back over the last 10 yrs.  I am not sorry we did because it has helped me to see the whole thing through the eyes of those who are less fortunate.

Back to the &quot;pagan&quot; roots.  I recently read an article by an atheist whose intent was to defend most traditions as non-christian.  He was telling the stories with a slant I had never heard, mainly because I had always heard it form the Christian pointing out the pagan roots perspective.  He was saying much the same thing, but pointing out that these &quot;son being raised up from a virgin&quot; stories were in many cultures and had nothing to do with Christianity - it hit me - just like flood stories are in every culture - many other cultures had contact with Hebrew people and had their stories passed down, but slightly changed. The tree story appears to me to be very closely connected with biblical prophecy with some of the facts out of order.  That tree symbolized the son who had died but was to rise again - my goodness, that mythical son was Jesus and the tree was the one He died on.  I really think those early missionaries were looking for God stories in other cultures and capturing them - there are just too many similarities for it to be a coincidence.  We have dozens of stories of missionaries entering never reached villages only to find they have been waiting for &quot;a man to come bringing a book that would tell them the way to eternal life&quot;  for generations. Just because another ancient culture had an incomplete picture of the eternal son does not mean we should curse them for it. We take what they have, just like Paul did with Aquilla and Priscilla, and we add to it to make it true and complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your approach. I have wrestled with different aspects of this over the years. Like you, I never told my children there was a Santa or even referred to him as real.  At some point I think all of them asked me, point blank, and when I told them that &#8220;Santa&#8221; was fashioned after a man who really did live a long time ago, told them the story, they often did not want to believe me. One daughter said, &#8220;Oh, not real, huh, Explain the flying reindeer!  LOL</p>
<p>I avoided having Santa decorations or Santa cards, always tried to focus on the gospel message.  We have had a tree most years.  </p>
<p>I love the &#8220;magic&#8221; atmosphere of Christmas and the music and the cheerfulness.  It became different when we underwent several financial crisis, almost back to back over the last 10 yrs.  I am not sorry we did because it has helped me to see the whole thing through the eyes of those who are less fortunate.</p>
<p>Back to the &#8220;pagan&#8221; roots.  I recently read an article by an atheist whose intent was to defend most traditions as non-christian.  He was telling the stories with a slant I had never heard, mainly because I had always heard it form the Christian pointing out the pagan roots perspective.  He was saying much the same thing, but pointing out that these &#8220;son being raised up from a virgin&#8221; stories were in many cultures and had nothing to do with Christianity &#8211; it hit me &#8211; just like flood stories are in every culture &#8211; many other cultures had contact with Hebrew people and had their stories passed down, but slightly changed. The tree story appears to me to be very closely connected with biblical prophecy with some of the facts out of order.  That tree symbolized the son who had died but was to rise again &#8211; my goodness, that mythical son was Jesus and the tree was the one He died on.  I really think those early missionaries were looking for God stories in other cultures and capturing them &#8211; there are just too many similarities for it to be a coincidence.  We have dozens of stories of missionaries entering never reached villages only to find they have been waiting for &#8220;a man to come bringing a book that would tell them the way to eternal life&#8221;  for generations. Just because another ancient culture had an incomplete picture of the eternal son does not mean we should curse them for it. We take what they have, just like Paul did with Aquilla and Priscilla, and we add to it to make it true and complete.</p>
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		<title>By: ANNA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt about what God is trying to tell us in Ezekiel 8 and 9.  The Jews were honoring false Gods. Believe you me, they were not purposefully trying to anger God. In fact they most likely did not know they were going against him - just like Christians today. However, if you see the punishment that happens in Ezekiel 9, you will see that God does not compromise on what he has commanded us to do. The only people who were saved in Ezek 9 were those who were mourning for the horrible practices of honoring other traditions, not God&#039;s traditions as given by Moses. We will suffer persecution if we follow him, just like all the people in the Bible did. 
Duet 12:8 
Ye shall not do after all [the things] that we do here this day, every man whatsoever [is] right in his own eyes.
Don&#039;t do what is &quot;right&quot; in your own eyes.  I will honor him in the way he desires to be honored and on those specific days for a very specific reason (prophetic)!

And look at what Jesus did:
John 10:22 – 23
And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon&#039;s porch.

Chanukkah - Jesus remembered Chanukkah.

Learn not the way of the heathen! Jeremiah 10

God bless and don&#039;t listen to what the world says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt about what God is trying to tell us in Ezekiel 8 and 9.  The Jews were honoring false Gods. Believe you me, they were not purposefully trying to anger God. In fact they most likely did not know they were going against him &#8211; just like Christians today. However, if you see the punishment that happens in Ezekiel 9, you will see that God does not compromise on what he has commanded us to do. The only people who were saved in Ezek 9 were those who were mourning for the horrible practices of honoring other traditions, not God&#8217;s traditions as given by Moses. We will suffer persecution if we follow him, just like all the people in the Bible did.<br />
Duet 12:8<br />
Ye shall not do after all [the things] that we do here this day, every man whatsoever [is] right in his own eyes.<br />
Don&#8217;t do what is &#8220;right&#8221; in your own eyes.  I will honor him in the way he desires to be honored and on those specific days for a very specific reason (prophetic)!</p>
<p>And look at what Jesus did:<br />
John 10:22 – 23<br />
And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon&#8217;s porch.</p>
<p>Chanukkah &#8211; Jesus remembered Chanukkah.</p>
<p>Learn not the way of the heathen! Jeremiah 10</p>
<p>God bless and don&#8217;t listen to what the world says.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%. The word of God is the standard! What we think, what we prefer, what we have always done means nothing in the big scope of humanity, THE WORD OF GOD IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS!

Thank you for this great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%. The word of God is the standard! What we think, what we prefer, what we have always done means nothing in the big scope of humanity, THE WORD OF GOD IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS!</p>
<p>Thank you for this great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Tylah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tylah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that you promote the biblical holidays, but you also promote pagan ones too. Isn&#039;t that going to send mixed signals to people. It was a little shocking to me to see that you were promoting Christmas when it is clearly a pagan holiday. I was under the impression that this was a Messianic web site. That is a little confusing to me. That is alot like mixing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that you promote the biblical holidays, but you also promote pagan ones too. Isn&#8217;t that going to send mixed signals to people. It was a little shocking to me to see that you were promoting Christmas when it is clearly a pagan holiday. I was under the impression that this was a Messianic web site. That is a little confusing to me. That is alot like mixing.</p>
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