Comments on: Should Homeschoolers Teach Logic? http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/ Heart of Wisdom Author Thu, 17 May 2012 20:05:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: KarenB http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2177 KarenB Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:09:03 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2177 EXCELLENT. I am so blessed to have come across your article. This has revolutionized the way I will direct the remaining 5 years of homeschooling our dd. Can't thank you enough! EXCELLENT. I am so blessed to have come across your article. This has revolutionized the way I will direct the remaining 5 years of homeschooling our dd. Can’t thank you enough!

]]> By: Anne-Marie http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2176 Anne-Marie Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:53:48 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2176 Man's Logic seems subjective and illogical to me. I think it's another high-minded elitist ego trip meant to intimidate the general population who are just as smart or smarter than the high-minded elitists. The book of Proverbs is full of common sense (logic) teaching. Ten Commandments are pretty straightforward. I don't need logic symbols or a Venn diagram to see that 1 True God does not equal any god or gods...etc. Right and wrong...it's really not that complicated. Man’s Logic seems subjective and illogical to me. I think it’s another high-minded elitist ego trip meant to intimidate the general population who are just as smart or smarter than the high-minded elitists.

The book of Proverbs is full of common sense (logic) teaching. Ten Commandments are pretty straightforward. I don’t need logic symbols or a Venn diagram to see that 1 True God does not equal any god or gods…etc. Right and wrong…it’s really not that complicated.

]]> By: Janis Miller http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2175 Janis Miller Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:54:25 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2175 Great question! True, the world's logic is not always God's logic. The study of any topic needs to be spiritually guided, and logic should be taught from that perspective. It is good to be aware of worldly logic. It can help us to understand the worldly aspect so we can compare and contrast it to the spiritual aspect. Knowing how to use logic and reason in a worldly aspect can be an asset in teaching spiritually to those that do no comprehend God's logic. One of the best sermons I have heard showing this skill is here http://tinyurl.com/56x5vb Great question! True, the world’s logic is not always God’s logic. The study of any topic needs to be spiritually guided, and logic should be taught from that perspective. It is good to be aware of worldly logic. It can help us to understand the worldly aspect so we can compare and contrast it to the spiritual aspect. Knowing how to use logic and reason in a worldly aspect can be an asset in teaching spiritually to those that do no comprehend God’s logic. One of the best sermons I have heard showing this skill is here http://tinyurl.com/56x5vb

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]]> By: Amanda http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2172 Amanda Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:41:10 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2172 <i>"At the time the humans still knew pretty well when a thing was proved and when it was not; and it it was proved they really believed it. They still connected thinking with doing and were prepare to alter their way of life as the result of a chain of reasoning. But what with the weekly press and other such weapons we have largely altered that. You man has been accustomed, ever since he was a boy, to have a dozen incompatible philosophies dancing together inside his head. He doesn't think of doctrines as primarily 'true' or 'false', but as 'academic' or 'practical', 'outworn' or 'contemporary', 'conventional' or ruthless'."</i> -The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis “At the time the humans still knew pretty well when a thing was proved and when it was not; and it it was proved they really believed it. They still connected thinking with doing and were prepare to alter their way of life as the result of a chain of reasoning.
But what with the weekly press and other such weapons we have largely altered that. You man has been accustomed, ever since he was a boy, to have a dozen incompatible philosophies dancing together inside his head. He doesn’t think of doctrines as primarily ‘true’ or ‘false’, but as ‘academic’ or ‘practical’, ‘outworn’ or ‘contemporary’, ‘conventional’ or ruthless’.”
-The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis

]]> By: Dana B. http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2171 Dana B. Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:44:59 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2171 I have really struggled with whether or not to comment on this issue. I was asked to pray about it & that is what I have done. I don't have long words on this subject, simply because as I have learned to let the Spirit lead our studies, He has not led me to bring a formal logic course into our day. We begin our morning with Bible studies and with that come many great conversations about how to apply the knowledge we are gaining. If the Lord did impress on my heart to bring Logic into our daily studies I would have to trust that it is because one of my children will need this in the future. Each of us as we homeschool our children are accomplishing different missions. The purpose and plan for my family is different than for yours. If you are passionate about teaching your children logic ask yourself why and is it a passion placed there by the Lord. Or is it just to keep up with other homeschoolers. I know that when we first began I forced my daughters through a Latin course. While it was good for them, my reasons for doing it were all wrong. It made me look really good to others to say that my little girls were learning Latin. My intentions were all wrong and selfish. Examine your heart as to why you do what you do in your school. Is it done to prepare your children for whatever purpose God has for them? Or does it just make you look really good to others. We homeschoolers put a lot of pressure on each other to keep up with each other & I am tired of it. My school functions differently from yours, but that is o'k because our mission is different than yours. I don't have very much time left in my day and I can't afford to fill it with things that don't count in my calling as a homeschooling mom. I HAVE to be very careful with what uses up my time as it is so short & precious. I agree that Logic isn't all bad, just the reasons behind it can be. If we are starting in the Word first and truely seeking HIM in our day, as the educators and then leading with our children then our delights will become like HIS. Like you reminded us Robin, "Seek ye first..." and "He shall supply all our needs" and "give us the delights of our heart" If that involves Logic or not we are to be obediant and allow the blessings to fall. Thanks Robin for making us think hard about why we are doing what we are doing. I have really struggled with whether or not to comment on this issue. I was asked to pray about it & that is what I have done. I don’t have long words on this subject, simply because as I have learned to let the Spirit lead our studies, He has not led me to bring a formal logic course into our day.

We begin our morning with Bible studies and with that come many great conversations about how to apply the knowledge we are gaining. If the Lord did impress on my heart to bring Logic into our daily studies I would have to trust that it is because one of my children will need this in the future.
Each of us as we homeschool our children are accomplishing different missions. The purpose and plan for my family is different than for yours. If you are passionate about teaching your children logic ask yourself why and is it a passion placed there by the Lord. Or is it just to keep up with other homeschoolers. I know that when we first began I forced my daughters through a Latin course. While it was good for them, my reasons for doing it were all wrong. It made me look really good to others to say that my little girls were learning Latin. My intentions were all wrong and selfish. Examine your heart as to why you do what you do in your school. Is it done to prepare your children for whatever purpose God has for them? Or does it just make you look really good to others. We homeschoolers put a lot of pressure on each other to keep up with each other & I am tired of it. My school functions differently from yours, but that is o’k because our mission is different than yours.

I don’t have very much time left in my day and I can’t afford to fill it with things that don’t count in my calling as a homeschooling mom. I HAVE to be very careful with what uses up my time as it is so short & precious.

I agree that Logic isn’t all bad, just the reasons behind it can be. If we are starting in the Word first and truely seeking HIM in our day, as the educators and then leading with our children then our delights will become like HIS. Like you reminded us Robin, “Seek ye first…” and “He shall supply all our needs” and “give us the delights of our heart” If that involves Logic or not we are to be obediant and allow the blessings to fall.

Thanks Robin for making us think hard about why we are doing what we are doing.

]]> By: admin http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2170 admin Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:22:56 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2170 Stacy put this long post in a nutshell beautifully: "...how much time we spend training our children’s hearts vs. how much time we spend training their minds..." Seek ye FIRST the Kingdom. Stacy put this long post in a nutshell beautifully:

“…how much time we spend training our children’s hearts vs. how much time we spend training their minds…”

Seek ye FIRST the Kingdom.

]]> By: KD http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2169 KD Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:47:28 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2169 Robinm You said that human reasoning is limited by experience. That is true, but more than that, human reasoning is imperfect because man is sinful. If you begin an argument using human reasoning, you will most certainly reach a false conclusion. Man's mind is part of fallen creation. Our thoughts simply cannot reason perfectly until God, in His grace, chooses to regenerate us, give us new life and open our blind eyes and give us the mind of Christ. I do not see any reason to defend the Bible using logic - ever. The Bible is self-authenticating. When God gives new life and sight to a believer, that person immediately sees that the Bible is true. This is something that can only be wrought by God. No amount of human reasoning will ever prove to an unbeliever that God's word is truth. Unbelievers are enemies of God and are in rebellion towards Him. They have no choice but to reject God. It is only when God initiates salvation that a person can then respond with faith - faith given as a gift by God. Until a person is saved by God he will always perceive his world incorrectly and will therefore always reach false conclusions about every philosophical dilemma. Robinm You said that human reasoning is limited by experience. That is true, but more than that, human reasoning is imperfect because man is sinful. If you begin an argument using human reasoning, you will most certainly reach a false conclusion. Man’s mind is part of fallen creation. Our thoughts simply cannot reason perfectly until God, in His grace, chooses to regenerate us, give us new life and open our blind eyes and give us the mind of Christ.

I do not see any reason to defend the Bible using logic – ever.
The Bible is self-authenticating. When God gives new life and sight
to a believer, that person immediately sees that the Bible is true.

This is something that can only be wrought by God. No amount of human reasoning will ever prove to an unbeliever that God’s word is truth. Unbelievers are enemies of God and are in rebellion towards Him. They have no choice but to reject God. It is only when God initiates salvation that a person can then respond with faith – faith given as a gift by God.

Until a person is saved by God he will always perceive his world incorrectly and will therefore always reach false conclusions about every philosophical dilemma.

]]> By: Pure and Sensible http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2168 Pure and Sensible Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:15:55 +0000 http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/homeschool/should-homeschoolers-teach-logic/#comment-2168 Robin, I just realized that I wrote in my very last comment: "apologetics (worldview trainng)" But, I wanted to clarify, I should have written apologetics (and worldview training)... Robin, I just realized that I wrote in my very last comment:
“apologetics (worldview trainng)”

But, I wanted to clarify, I should have written apologetics (and worldview training)…

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